Comments on: Strategy Spotlight: Breaking out of San-ren-sei http://journal.go.org.au/2010/01/29/strategy-spotlight-breaking-out-of-san-ren-sei/ It's all fun and games, until someone loses an eye... Thu, 29 Jul 2010 23:12:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1-alpha By: Lok Yan http://journal.go.org.au/2010/01/29/strategy-spotlight-breaking-out-of-san-ren-sei/comment-page-1/#comment-579 Lok Yan Sat, 30 Jan 2010 12:07:32 +0000 http://journal.go.org.au/?p=1010#comment-579 Hi, Mile, I think you are a good teacher! But this is a little bit difficult for me. You know my English is not good :p I will send this website to my friend Let all Hong Kong players know this ^^ Lok Yan Hi, Mile, I think you are a good teacher!
But this is a little bit difficult for me.
You know my English is not good :p
I will send this website to my friend
Let all Hong Kong players know this

^^ Lok Yan

]]> By: John Hardy http://journal.go.org.au/2010/01/29/strategy-spotlight-breaking-out-of-san-ren-sei/comment-page-1/#comment-578 John Hardy Fri, 29 Jan 2010 06:09:10 +0000 http://journal.go.org.au/?p=1010#comment-578 This is a great series, Mile. I hope I can try this variation sometime. John This is a great series, Mile. I hope I can try this variation sometime.
John

]]> By: Mile Gu http://journal.go.org.au/2010/01/29/strategy-spotlight-breaking-out-of-san-ren-sei/comment-page-1/#comment-577 Mile Gu Fri, 29 Jan 2010 01:01:31 +0000 http://journal.go.org.au/?p=1010#comment-577 Yup, black playing 3 at 5 is a mistake, since white gets a very strong ponnuki on the outside, after black captures the 2 stones, white jumps out at F-14. [go]$$c $$ +-----------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . $$ | . 7 O X . . . . . . . . . $$ | . 5 O X . . . . . X . . . $$ | . 2 1 X . . . . . . . . . $$ | 6 3 O W . 8 . . . . . . . $$ | . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . $$ | . . . , . . . . . . . . . [/go] What happens. You can check that the result looks like white played 3-3 first, and black doubled haned. Except that black played a useless move at C-12, allowing white to jump out at F-14. [go]$$c $$ +-----------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . $$ | . 7 O X . . . . . . . . . $$ | . 5 O X . . . . . X . . . $$ | . O X 3 . . . . . . . . . $$ | 6 1 2 8 . 0 . . . . . . . $$ | . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . $$ | . . 9 . . . . . . . . . . $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . $$ | . . . , . . . . . . . . . [/go] Tewari Here Black 9 looks obviously bad after white 8. So this result is generally nod good for black. It's probably playable in rare situations, when the left side is lots of solid groups and thus worth very little. Thanks for mentioning the ladder, I just assumed to worked for white. The fight in Diagram 5 I think is only good for white if that ladder works. Usually it though does if black went san ren sei though! Though the variations after Diagram 5 still remains very complicated either way, so this should probably only be played if you love close combat :). Yup, black playing 3 at 5 is a mistake, since white gets a very strong ponnuki on the outside, after black captures the 2 stones, white jumps out at F-14.


What happens.

You can check that the result looks like white played 3-3 first, and black doubled haned. Except that black played a useless move at C-12, allowing white to jump out at F-14.


Tewari

Here Black 9 looks obviously bad after white 8. So this result is generally nod good for black. It’s probably playable in rare situations, when the left side is lots of solid groups and thus worth very little.

Thanks for mentioning the ladder, I just assumed to worked for white. The fight in Diagram 5 I think is only good for white if that ladder works. Usually it though does if black went san ren sei though! Though the variations after Diagram 5 still remains very complicated either way, so this should probably only be played if you love close combat :).

]]> By: alex http://journal.go.org.au/2010/01/29/strategy-spotlight-breaking-out-of-san-ren-sei/comment-page-1/#comment-576 alex Thu, 28 Jan 2010 22:06:09 +0000 http://journal.go.org.au/?p=1010#comment-576 In diagram 2, what happens if black plays 3 at 5 instead? Is white happy to sacrifice the corner? In diagram 2, what happens if black plays 3 at 5 instead? Is white happy to sacrifice the corner?

]]> By: GP http://journal.go.org.au/2010/01/29/strategy-spotlight-breaking-out-of-san-ren-sei/comment-page-1/#comment-575 GP Thu, 28 Jan 2010 20:35:42 +0000 http://journal.go.org.au/?p=1010#comment-575 Mile Good stuff! Thanks for this. There seems to be an issue with ladder breakers in the lower right, something that might be worth exploring in your next post. GP Mile

Good stuff! Thanks for this. There seems to be an issue with ladder breakers in the lower right, something that might be worth exploring in your next post.

GP

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